Monday, 14 October 2013

Faulty Data Used to Divide & Conquer...



Elaine Edwards shared a photo

It hits a nerve when I see this kind of thing shared... I had to say this and not worry if it makes me unpopular...Elaine Edwards I wonder how accurate and true this is...if the pensioner is in receipt of housing benefit as well it would be higher...whether both the totals include all the same aspects such as council tax benefit and the housing etc....these kinds of figures are used to divide and conquer us and get us fighting among ourselves blaming others whose blame is not as deserved as the tax dodging and tax breaks to big business....so the rich continue to get richer and the poor fight among themselves...

Elaine Edwards the system is wrong and in many places unfair in the most appalling ways but the propaganda used to deflect us away from the real problems and solutions make me feel sicker...
*The photos stated a figure for a pensioner and then for immigrants making it look like the later has around 4 times the amount a pensioner does. The way it was presented didn't make it clear what the figures included just came up with a total. I did keep it on my page but set to only me but it has now disappeared, either due to it being taken down or made private.* edit 18.41 15th October 2013

  •  Elaine Edwards it has annoyed me since I first got declared fit for work falsely the first time...it is not immigrants fault that we are given a raw deal and when I talked about it that was what got used to deflect talking about my situation and the fact that there are people who fraud....far less than the press would have you believe...they use all this kind of stuff to harm us all more...that is why it upsets me 

    Elaine Edwards and of course there are people who think I am not really as bad as I say and think I look ok so I am....I was at a funeral of the guy I shaved my head for in a charity stunt (that led to my current state of health) and a man started talking about beating an immigrant to death to put others off....this kind of talk is dangerous it leads to that kind of idea being thought by some as reasonable...
  •  they say we can't afford to look after the sick and disabled but they lie....they can afford to pay for atos to abuse us and workfare that doesn't get people into work just working for their benefits and sanctions...they are spending more money on destroying the welfare system than they are saving from their austerity measures...I too wish to see pensioners, ill and disabled, unemployed and low paid workers properly supported but don't forget that many of the asylum seekers are not in the position that this suggests...and are in just as appalling conditions as many of us are...
    16 hours ago · Like · 3

  • Daily Mail is one of the worst offenders of taking the p out of the genuine by waging this war on us....I will stop here before I get upset...smiles


  •  And the false premise that we can't afford it...the corruption in governments around the world is quite appalling....I am sure there are many examples of the lies many believe
    we can't afford it...we will host the olymics, we can't afford it, we will h
    ave a big spend on the jubilee parties....we can't afford to care for the sick, we will have a state funeral for Maggie the ex most hated prime minister till Dave arrives on the scene....the bankers can have their massive bonuses and we will still bail out the banks....the government will have a pay rise and more expenses on top...ranty time over...smiles
  •  Thank you Geri I like your comment not for the sad news your country is suffering the same shizz but you understand why I feel the way I do  x





  • the only reason I shared it was to point out how bad this is...not for others to share it from my page feeling proud to spread the stuff that divides us...we are being played and I just found it ignorant to share it from my page...

  •  to me it is like me having a 'work sets you free' poster and explaining how it is being used to leave way for future murder of the workless~for whatever reason and then the person sharing it without pointing that out and being proud to work bloody hard and not be incapable...not giving a tinkers cuss for the struggling artist or the ill person...had to lighten it up a bit or I won't sleep!

 I guess I understand people not understanding the significance of spreading this but not spreading it after being given an opportunity to understand....if she wanted to share it do it from someone else's wall but not mine....it upset me....more than seeing it where I shared it from but then there is other stuff to do with knowing each other that factored in and the fact that she will be hurt I took her off list...


  • well I haven't seen her for well over a year so it could be some time before it gets to that point!
  • and I am pretty much housebound without help right now and often even if I had help...

so many people believe so much shit...and some would say the same of me...grins

 and I guess I did have a big sense of being let down I had been ignoring so when she did that it felt like a kick in the teeth after already being pushed out in the cold...

If it hadn't been for such a laborious procedure to defriend people I would have taken virtually every local person off my list a couple of months ago when my life felt so desperate and I had put pleas out for help and no-one responded....I was feeling no-one loves me, everybody hates me, I'm going to eat some wer-er-erms...big fat juicy ones incy wincy tiny ones, incy wincy wiincy wincy worms...oh dear....

 I am not immune to acting as reactively and regressively in a playground manner...although I never joined in with any of the running to go see the action when the chant fight fight fight started up I would stay where I was or get out of the way...

 I actually understand that and can be very forgiving of that having caused big breaks in contact...also understanding and appreciating I wouldn't have the energy to keep more up with many people and when the energy is not right things naturally happen and plans don't work out...and also appreciating the friendships that I can reconnect at any point with...those who mutually are pursuing other avenues as such...

I feel very serene...discussing this has helped loads...smiles

just kindness is such a blessing..

ffs it has been shared again!


  • I despair at this being shared it is propaganda to divide and conquer and deflect from the real truth about the reforms....I guess you didn't see my feelings about it?
  • And how I feel about it being shared as propaganda from my page 
  •  I am not happy about facts being distorted to share hatred towards scapegoats rather than do something about the real problems...sorry really upsets me
  • I shared it to point out the misinformation...I am seriously considering taking it down but the points I made about it are valid...someone I used to be friends with shared it from my page last night and I removed her from my list...it's not that simple....it has nothing to do with immigrants the way they treat pensioners...this kind of thing has led to asylum seekers being treated even more badly...I am going to write a blog about it and remove it from my page...sorry if you feel uncomfortable with any of my feelings about this...

I tried to put this and it had been removed....bless I hope I haven't upset a gentle soul...
I've taken it off my page...what you do with it is your choice...as I said on my page it hits a raw nerve when this rubbish gets shared  x
It wasn't necessarily removed but she did defriend me...oh well...

2 comments:

  1. I'd be upset too if someone misunderstood and then misrepresented my beliefs and feelings to such a degree Lainy. I think anyone who knows you would know that wasn't your views and that you'd been taken out of context and would hopefully check back and see what you'd really written. The internet is such a difficult place that way sometimes isn't it? I've quite often written things then thought the meaning I had in my head hasn't come across well, and can come out sounding like a pronouncement on whatever, when I'm actually a really hesitant kind of person. I know what you mean about not having the energy to keep up with many people, it is hard to be able to keep up with it all sometimes, I do think of you as one of the friends I can reconnect with even though we both wander off here and there. xxxx

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  2. smiles...yes...I think of you as someone I can reconnect with when the time comes too...

    What really made it rather annoying for me was how I had clearly written that sharing that kind of disinformation hit a nerve and then it got shared despite that from my post, it really did feel like a slap!

    I can understand them being taken by the hook of how badly pensioners are treated but I suppose it goes to show how deeply most people will look into information being shown to them and how they like to have a scapegoat to blame instead of the real issues at stake and how easily good people share hatred...made me feel despondent and despairing of how humanity will get through this bit of history that is edging us towards worse horror than many are already experiencing including pensioners and immigrants and ill and disabled people, and low paid workers and well paid workers losing their jobs or their health and finding out it isn't as cushy as they thought...etc...
    I didn't want to take it down as it had some good discussion on it in places...I have only included my side of that as it is one thing to write on my wall and another for me to put that in a blog and I didn't think it was right to do without asking...I actually kept it but put it to me only....so no-one else has an opportunity to share it from my wall...saddened me lots <3 x

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